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The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05 

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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.

Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.

But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.

The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?

Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.

For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.

With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.

Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.

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Rusty Bearden
Rusty Bearden 38 minuuttia sitten
I've said it before and I say it again - take a big engine and put it in a small car, make it work and...........automotive perfection (no matter the make or the model) great video
Alex Nights
Alex Nights 10 tuntia sitten
Earing a American talk about full economi does not sound right
Aleksander Bregu
Aleksander Bregu 14 tuntia sitten
This videos whas like a story
Marius Jivan
Marius Jivan 16 tuntia sitten
The W126 560 SEL is the Best Sedan in the world!
Punisher El castigador
Punisher El castigador 19 tuntia sitten
Excellent car ..!! But I prefer the baby hummer Mercedes Benz 190e 2.3 16v Cosworth, Icon and unique car 🙏🏻
Daniel F.
Daniel F. Päivä sitten
this video definetly contributes to the 500E's used prices
Frejdyn Jarrett
Frejdyn Jarrett Päivä sitten
Best auto journalist EVER. I enjoy Mr. Cammisa's presentations more, even, than Mr. Clarkson's. Only just.
Adam Arez
Adam Arez Päivä sitten
I love mine! It is in Rose’ Pewter, which I understand is 1/37 in the World and 1/17 in US. Do you know anything about color production?
p1epoppa
p1epoppa Päivä sitten
Loved the narration! 💪🏽
 NPC9000
NPC9000 Päivä sitten
I like how Americans call anything under an F150 compact, I guess everything is a compact when you're a burger.
Christopher King
Christopher King 2 päivää sitten
I'm a BMW guy and in an older car I need a manual but notwithstanding that you gotta give it up to the 400 and 500E and just such a simple, elegant body style while the S class cars got bigger and uglier. BTW Porsche also worked on the 960 Volvo engine. There's a nice little grocery getter and can be had cheaply. Poor man's Benz LOL.
Wojciech Adamczyk
Wojciech Adamczyk 2 päivää sitten
Perfect sedan is m5 e34 or m5 e39
rc
rc 2 päivää sitten
Our first car w124 230E😍❤️
Sreyas Sreedhar
Sreyas Sreedhar 2 päivää sitten
Benz 190 E♥️
Tom Board
Tom Board 2 päivää sitten
So just for giggles I decided to see if there were any 500Es for sale. I found a few 1992 models. The cheapest with 150k miles was $43,000. Now I'm looking at my 2004 Lexus LS430 with a 150k miles that I paid $6k out the door a year and a half ago with even more love...and a tinge of envy.
Illegalquantity
Illegalquantity 2 päivää sitten
I totally agree,the 500E was the best car ever built. Second one was 190E 2.5-16!
BushPilot
BushPilot 3 päivää sitten
Instantly sucked into that video. That got a like and sub for sure one of the best I have seen. Plus looks incredibly fun to drive.
WJS6495
WJS6495 3 päivää sitten
This guy is funny
binhonz
binhonz 3 päivää sitten
and Senna drove one of these on the track, faaaaaast!
Luigi Tabbi
Luigi Tabbi 3 päivää sitten
What a video!
Tunde Akinyosoye
Tunde Akinyosoye 4 päivää sitten
Mercedes Benz - was/is a status symbol in Nigeria. 500E/E500 were not common - E200/E300 were more widespread and had the nickname V-Boot - guessing it was due to that rear design. Lovely car - however I am a BMW man!!
NearlyZero
NearlyZero 4 päivää sitten
I had a 1991 300E My god I miss that baby. Also had a 1989 300SEL. Both were amazing. "I swear they had the power to repair themselves". Tom Waits
Chris Wilkinson
Chris Wilkinson 4 päivää sitten
Now Imagine that with a 5/6 speed manual and then it’s neck level special! ala E39 M5…
Kizi chillin
Kizi chillin 4 päivää sitten
Thank you for posting 🙌
Kizi chillin
Kizi chillin 4 päivää sitten
I wanna buy them all from you...let me jt check the back of my sofa🔄🏧🕳️🦧
Hiroshi13
Hiroshi13 4 päivää sitten
LS400 > Mercedes anything
Frank
Frank 4 päivää sitten
Awesome.
Klaus Haunstrup Christensen
Klaus Haunstrup Christensen 4 päivää sitten
A bit noisy. So not quite perfect. Some might claim it’s a glorious sound/ noise but I don’t buy it. See for me the most glorious sound in the world is The Creation by Joseph Haydn, still I will go bonkers if have to listen to it hours by hours, day by day. Engine noise is substantially less musical and almost completely monotonous so it’s going to drive me bonkers faster. I assume the 400E mentioned is less noisy so it might be the best car in the world 🤔
Geass Sogeki
Geass Sogeki 5 päivää sitten
The world's most perfect sedan is the Model S Plaid!
Shawn Greenaway
Shawn Greenaway 5 päivää sitten
Worked on these cars years back. They are a super cool high performance sedan. Almost every switch is serviceable. The control units were still plug and play. If I was to own a MB of that era it would be the E 300. Much easier to work on.
Gabriele Pepe
Gabriele Pepe 5 päivää sitten
Where is the love reaction button!!?
Feri Seven
Feri Seven 5 päivää sitten
100% not most! sorry!
toasteh
toasteh 5 päivää sitten
Really well made documentary. Thanks for making and sharing!
Jason Jackson
Jason Jackson 5 päivää sitten
C11
Cisco Urquidez
Cisco Urquidez 5 päivää sitten
First I wamt to compliment one of my favorite hosts that worked at Motortrend. Now, on a transition that has obviously given him intellectual and artistic freedom. SOAR! Missed you on HEAD2HEAD...... Appreciate you more NOW!! Good luck papa!! Your content is GOLD!!🤔🤗😎👍
bbmavic
bbmavic 5 päivää sitten
Ben afflek??
dharkbizkit
dharkbizkit 6 päivää sitten
i wouldnt call it infatuation with fuel economy, rather a necessity due to fuel prices. and its still the same thing today, even tho usa prices got higher over time. 1 litre 95 is around 1,55 euro today here in germany, according to a us travel advise website, average price in the us for 95 gas is 75 eurocent. when my relatives were stationed here, the complain so hard. it was the mid 90s and they said, it 3x times as expensive to fill the car up here
Phil Norton
Phil Norton 6 päivää sitten
Certainly one of MB’s best, and undoubtedly from their best period, but the best saloon ever? What about the timing chains needed from 50,000 miles? The rust? The price of parts? The fact that it didn’t even need a speed limiter? Quite impressive in its day, a tad less so now. I’d still have one, but let’s remove the rose tinted specs.😎
Earl Ocampo
Earl Ocampo 6 päivää sitten
Where can I get one of these?
Prone Rider 562
Prone Rider 562 6 päivää sitten
2:29...Bro...Get those scrstchy ass jeans off the whip! 🤣
Cameron St.Clair
Cameron St.Clair 6 päivää sitten
Absolutely loved this video... up until I saw that public roads were being used. Please be careful.
Daniel Stefanov
Daniel Stefanov 7 päivää sitten
Citroen C5 Exclusiv, ever heard of it? ;)
M K
M K 7 päivää sitten
The 70s? The W124 500E was in production 1990-1995. About 20 years off
Al Ale
Al Ale 7 päivää sitten
The first person driving at the end was awesome. Now time to go to marketplace.
M K
M K 7 päivää sitten
What’s the Mercedes that was in the movie “Double Impact” with Jean Claude Van Damne?
Mark Marko
Mark Marko 7 päivää sitten
The 80s is when cars used to be real cars, European and Japanese, nothing exciting about today's cars, engineers have their hands and brains cuffed, profit is all what matters, just like what happened to boeing
Shawn Elliott
Shawn Elliott 7 päivää sitten
It's certainly an incredibly impressive Autobahn Bomber. But for daily commuting in shitty American traffic, my Camry Hybrid with radar-assisted cruise control, automatic lane-centering, no gear-changes, and 50mpg in stop-and-go freeway traffic-jams, wins hands-down.
craigb
craigb 7 päivää sitten
They really are a stunning car even today.(the 124's).. every now and then you drive past one and they are usually in immaculate condition and you go.... WoW. I think you captured it well when you said "look at all the other cars" from the 80's
Abdelrahman Khairy
Abdelrahman Khairy 7 päivää sitten
I am appalled by myself not finding this channel sooner... Here's a subscribe..., take it!😄🤲
Abdelrahman Khairy
Abdelrahman Khairy 7 päivää sitten
I also strongly suspect Doug DeMuro is actually a robot pretending to be human.
crazyman8472
crazyman8472 7 päivää sitten
So, a late ‘70s Mercedes? That was when “Mercedes” meant something besides “overpriced junk”. 😜
SM356
SM356 4 päivää sitten
Junk? Are you out of your damn mind?
Marcus Mcgarkus
Marcus Mcgarkus 7 päivää sitten
Personally I thought the most perfect sedan was a Chevrolet Caprice Classic or even a Mercury Grand Marquis. You guys like expensive cars that go to the shop a lot. Engineered like no other car in the world..thank God!
Kseno Morf
Kseno Morf 7 päivää sitten
finally someone who pronounces Porsche correctly
Rhythm Stick
Rhythm Stick 8 päivää sitten
BECAUSE IT FITS THE VAPOURWAVE AESTHETIC
SG
SG 8 päivää sitten
Love my daily drive 1992 300E. But the only thing that I believe one can never control; the absolute MPG, is what's hurting me the most. Best I got was ~26 US MPG and worst I got was 16 in my specific driving conditions. Yet still I plan on keeping it forever. Critical parts are still manageable with reasonable price so far even tho they keep getting less available and more expensive.
Nespokesman
Nespokesman 8 päivää sitten
Good job, damn...
THE BGSTER
THE BGSTER 8 päivää sitten
I dont if its the best sedan but its between this and the lotus carlton
Addo Blaknovski
Addo Blaknovski 8 päivää sitten
GOAT auto journalist 💜
Theo Teddy
Theo Teddy 8 päivää sitten
wow opel calibra had the same drag coeficient and bragged about it so much I remember it.. never heard mercedes mentioning it that times..
Mekai Fortune
Mekai Fortune 9 päivää sitten
Nice production
Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia 9 päivää sitten
Probably the coolest merc ever short of the hammer
Tj Enki
Tj Enki 9 päivää sitten
Please do the Lexus LS 400/430
Lorend Bungaran
Lorend Bungaran 9 päivää sitten
04:17 is he trying to sit on the bonnet??
Christopher Prose
Christopher Prose 9 päivää sitten
Great video and so interesting. I had no idea there was so much going on with this car at the time. I do remember when flushed headlights finally arrived in America. They were so cool! Still, it took the US manufacturers years to catch up with that trend and for congress to approve the innovation. You had only two choices with American cars: Round or square, that's it. To me, Europe still has a more diverse and intriguing range of cars to choose from. All we get anymore is SUVs. At least they all come with flush headlights now.
Alan Hadzic
Alan Hadzic 9 päivää sitten
God is above as Mercedes below
Tapejara 150
Tapejara 150 9 päivää sitten
He knows.
LEE ZEO
LEE ZEO 9 päivää sitten
W124 love it
Brendan Carlson
Brendan Carlson 9 päivää sitten
🔨
Birch
Birch 9 päivää sitten
Man, now I just gotta see the LS400 video.
Henry P
Henry P 9 päivää sitten
One of my favorite episodes, and prob one of my favorite cars ever! Great Content !
Obamaistoast2012
Obamaistoast2012 9 päivää sitten
The most perfect car is my 93 mitsubishi expo LRV,
socallawrence
socallawrence 9 päivää sitten
This dude is a mix of Adam Sandler, Ben Affleck and and Edward Burns LOL
battlecat
battlecat 10 päivää sitten
Lexus will always be better than Benz.
Mudiaga Idjerhaka
Mudiaga Idjerhaka 10 päivää sitten
Till today....2021.... are you sure..though I like Mercedes benz
A one
A one 10 päivää sitten
W124 engineering masterpiece
Nick Hagen
Nick Hagen 10 päivää sitten
Saw the intro. I insta subbed !:) i know am the right place !
xn0
xn0 10 päivää sitten
The masturbating windshield wiper is awesome.
Jose Gutierrez
Jose Gutierrez 10 päivää sitten
A thing of beauty, this car is rolling art where form follows function
Nick Blackwell
Nick Blackwell 10 päivää sitten
Brilliant video. Very interesting
Don K
Don K 10 päivää sitten
I just discovered this video. I have a 1989 W124 200, which has done 446 000 km - every thing still original and she goes like a bomb. When I give my grandchild's friends a lift from school, they always say, "wow, it rides so smoothly" even though their parents have the latest models of all types of vehicles. I love my Merc as it goes untouched from service to service. Other cars dread colliding with it as it is like a tank in comparison with many of the flimsy cars of today. Although it has been a family car for years, the interior is immaculate and so too the exterior (except for a bit of rust at rear window (coastal car)). Still quite a few in my Town looking super good. You can park them next to the latest models and it will stand proud. Thanks for the excellent presentation.
manolis wec
manolis wec 11 päivää sitten
nice work
MökkiMan
MökkiMan 11 päivää sitten
Still, Mercedes W124 is better than LS400
Stefan M
Stefan M 11 päivää sitten
I remember when I was kid I saw this car and i fall in love with Mercedes. This Mercedes together with w140, w123 was symbol of success.
Kalle Simonen
Kalle Simonen 11 päivää sitten
volvo 940!
M22ate
M22ate 11 päivää sitten
I need one
Gregory Garcia
Gregory Garcia 11 päivää sitten
Damn doode. You’re such a Fender Licker. I love your style.
Rakyh
Rakyh 11 päivää sitten
My brother had one of the few 500E in Sweden and that thing was an absolute BLAST to drive!
Peter Kröger
Peter Kröger 11 päivää sitten
I always find it hillarious when I hear what Americans call "a compact". This was the second biggest Mercedes for crying out loud. Here in Europe we call a VW Golf a compact an thats two sizes smaller. (At least back then.)
4k re-ality
4k re-ality 11 päivää sitten
Burt Kreisher to tell you how great the 500E was
Conor James
Conor James 11 päivää sitten
anyone else do a google search. see the price ...laugh...and then wanted to buy 1?
Bad-Short-Videos
Bad-Short-Videos 11 päivää sitten
The "Porsche" license plate holder on the 124 is very fitting
Dave Mills
Dave Mills 12 päivää sitten
Now this was fun to watch. Excellent 👌
Louigie
Louigie 12 päivää sitten
I want that car... Super Advanced yet built by 1970??? Dude..
Channel D
Channel D 12 päivää sitten
I had a friend who had one, it's was awesome
channel surfer
channel surfer 12 päivää sitten
why would anybody thumb this show down? this is how you do a car show...it's the best one.
Anubhav Singh
Anubhav Singh 12 päivää sitten
Some of the finest video I have seen in long time
channel surfer
channel surfer 12 päivää sitten
...is the 2010 Jaguar XF hands down.
veezo85
veezo85 12 päivää sitten
My W124 saved me from a head on collision with a Toyota pickup. I skidded off the road due to an oil spill and my car didn't have airbags. I walked away from the crash sadly my car didn't..
Premium Motors Mercedes Service
Nice car and reliable
R. Flash
R. Flash 12 päivää sitten
The things you can do when you actually put some effort in. We went to the moon 40 years ago and now all these wannabe engineers with fancy computers can't even build a 747 with it blowing up! Also how on earth do you build a car that can't even fit down ur own assembly line like nobody thought to measure!🤦‍♂️
Mean Mister Mustard
Mean Mister Mustard 12 päivää sitten
one of my favorite cars of all time... and I'm dreaming of having one. LOL! for 250 to 350k philippine pesos, i can own one... that's the E230 - E320 btw
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